2006 Shamrock 21RS?

[Fire-n-Gin]

Hi Campers!  I'm looking for information and 1st party opinions from people who own a 2006 Shamrock 21RS...

What kind of price range should one expect for this rig?  Any known issues or what to look for in this model, etc?

Thanks, Rodd



Moderators, I know how this works and this is not the correct forum location for this post, but I'm looking for the most amount of exposure as possible as my buddy is ready to buy this week.  Please give a few days then if needed, you may move it.  Thanks.   -r-

[RoadWarrior]

I can't speak to that specific model, but friends of ours have a Surveyor (an 05 I believe) which is also built by Forest River.  We stayed in it several times.  It's a 26ft hard slide with quad bunks parallel to the sides at the tongue end.  The 21RS has the bunks across the tongue end. 

Interior moulding around the rear slide has come off.  At the rear corners of the exterior the sides have separated from the back about an inch almost the entire height of the trailer. The fenders have fallen of and required screwing in at different places. 

It's a nicely designed trailer.  Good use of space.  Couch and bench seats are comfortable.  Not a lot of creaks.  Doors swing well.  The hard slide is nice as it cuts down on the outside noise.  I'd whack the blinds at least 1/2 dozen times a night when I rolled over. Theirs has in-floor ducting.

When he took it to the dealer about the walls separating they basically shrugged and said bring it back when your not using it.  Since it's out of warranty they'd give him a quote and they can fix it.

That's all that comes to mind. 

[bikendan]

basically, it's a twin of the Rockwood Roo 21RS, which are much more plentiful.

here's NADA's prices: $8,200   -low retail, $9,880-average retail

was the first rear hard-slide of the Shamrock/Roo line. i'd look for leaks around the slide. also, the ceiling. basically the same for any RV with a slide.

one thing, don't think slide covers are made for rear-slide trailers.

[Chuck S]

The 21RS shows in both the 2005 and 2006 catalogs.  The '06 models got a 2" increase in ceiling height (from 76" to 78"), but "early '06 models may have used up the remaining '05 body shells.  Check this if ceiling height is important. 

Interior storage space is fairly limited in the 21RS model because the bed retracts and cover most of the sofa and dinette.  I believe both these need to be folded down for the slide to retract.  This eliminates the ability to use this part of the trailer without extending the bed.

Lacking a side slide this is a narrow camper inside.  The 7.5' width makes leg room a hassle in the sofa dinette area as they're right across from each other.  This got better a couple of years later with the body width was increased by 6" but any dinette opposite the sofa is a poor design.

We looked at all the RS models but wanted to sleep under tents.

-- Chuck

[Oz and Us]

The 21RS has the bunks across the tongue end.

Since we've not owned a 21RS I can't comment on the specifics of this particular model but since we ourselves came within an inch of ordering an almost identical KZ Spree 210KS rear glide which I had researched extensively I can comment on this particular style of trailer.  Many manufacturers offer their own version but they're all similar, usually no side glide but with a couch, twin bunk beds at the front, and a rear queen bed glide, the advantage being relatively light weight in a fairly short towing package of around 23' or so.  KZ is one manufacturer however that fits all their rear glide models with a king rear glide that allows sleeping feet in and therefore avoids the need to crawl over one's partner to get out of bed, as is the case with any queen glide.  With no side glide I'd avoid any that are not a full 96" wide as that extra 6" over a trailer just 7' 6" wide makes a BIG difference.  The other issue with any of these trailers is bunk bed width ... usually the bottom bed is tolerable but the top is often much narrower because the trailer's front wall slopes in at the top, really limiting space.  FWIW, I recently noted that KZ added a Spree 220KS model to their lineup that featured two twin size bunk beds ... it's since disappeared from their website so I'm guessing someone at KZ got a little ahead of themselves but I wouldn't be surprised to see this model show up sometime as a new 2011 model.  As for any rear glide model there has been concern over the mechanism used to deploy the bed, the seal design around that bed extension, and the possibility of pulling the support tracks out of the ceiling when the glide is stored and the trailer is under tow ... all of which were very real problems with earlier model years, much less so now that manufacturers have figured out how to overcome these issues.  As with hybrids, rear glides are relatively recent newcomers to the scene, have undergone their growing pains, and as such I'd personally be inclined to instead invest in more recent model that benefits from the latest changes designed to make this type of trailer less susceptible to problems than was the case with earlier model years.

[Chuck S]

The Roo/Shamrock 21RS has a child-sized double bunk stacked across the front of the trailer, just to the right of the door on entry.  I say child-sized as the upper is 26"x72" and the lower is 32"x72".  Adult sized on a troop ship, perhaps, but very cramped otherwise.

The 21RS is on the cover and the first two pages of the 2006 Roo catalog.  From the photographs the front double bunk appears to be windowless.  And consequently without any ventilation.

-- Chuck

[Oz and Us]

The Roo/Shamrock 21RS has a child-sized double bunk stacked across the front of the trailer, just to the right of the door on entry.  I say child-sized as the upper is 26"x72" and the lower is 32"x72".  Adult sized on a troop ship, perhaps, but very cramped otherwise.

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Trailer manufacturers are notorious for fitting way too small bunk beds, even in 30'+ rigs ... it's a total non-starter for us and a main reason we'd eliminate most from any shopping list we might have.  Fortunately, a few models are beginning to appear with reasonably sized bunks, our own KZ Spree 240BH being an example ... it has two 32" x 92" beds and although the width is "adequate" I'd still prefer them to be at least 36", while the third 28" x 75 bed proved to be so useless that I removed it entirely.  Before we purchased this trailer we were likewise really interested in the rear glide KZ 210KS but the way too narrow upper bunk was a real concern ... if KZ indeed comes out with a longer 220KS with two twin width bunk beds then we'd once again be really interested.

[cdnbayside]

If you're looking at rear slide models, check out Keystone Outback.  They have four models with king size rear sliding beds.  The front bunks are also a good size at 34 x 74 for both bottom and top.

http://keystone-outback.com/index.php?page=floorplans

[Oz and Us]

If you're looking at rear slide models, check out Keystone Outback.  They have four models with king size rear sliding beds.  The front bunks are also a good size at 34 x 74 for both bottom and top.

Wider bunk beds certainly is an attraction with the Outback 210RS but it's not as good as it seems since the front wall of the trailer slopes in so dramatically, more so than with the KZ Spree.  The Outback is also a porker at 4839 lbs dry ... that's a lot for a 21' rear glide and a lot heavier than KZ's 210KS which is just 4160 lbs dry, and while others may prefer the dark wood treatment I'd much rather see a lighter oak, especially in a trailer this size that has no side glide.  The Outback also requires the use of external rear glide supports while the Spree rear glide is self supporting.  As I said earlier, if KZ does release a longer 220KS with twin size front bunks we'd at least go for a look!